I've always been looking for ways to make therapy more innovative, effective, and ultimately convenient. This desire led to the creation of my New York based practice: Walk and Talk Therapy. As the only outdoor psychotherapy practice in New York, I have been fortunate to have been covered by Good Morning America, The Wall Street Journal and AM New York. The stories are pasted below.
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Is 'Zennis' the New Mental Health Therapy?
Sept. 1, 2006 — Looking for some peace of mind that goes beyond the therapist's couch? The solution could be found in exercise. Now, counselors are providing a new kind of mental health treatment that combines talk therapy with physical exercise that includes everything from walking and hiking to tennis and golf. Clay Cockrell, a New York City licensed social worker, has taken his therapy off the couch and into the great outdoors. "I meet you. We do our session. It's just much more convenient," Cockrell said. Antidepressants are taking away business from talk therapy, according to some experts. A recent study found that less than 15 percent of patients had the suggested amount of follow-up care after starting medication. So therapists have to find new ways to keep people interested in talk therapy. Cockrell thinks combining talk therapy with physical exercise might increase the number of people considering talk therapy. "I think we're becoming a society looking for a quick fix. I go, I take my pill, and I'm better," he said. "It doesn't work that way." Bonus Benefits There's an added bonus in walk and talk therapy — the exercise. Research has shown that even a light workout helps diminish bad moods and relieve pain. "It's not for everyone, but for those that it works, it really, really works," Cockrell said. -CONT- Some critics, however, say the new type of therapy is unprofessional and doesn't protect clients' anonymity. Cockrell, however, disagrees. "I think that it's still a session. You're here for 50 minutes to an hour whether we're in an office or we're outside walking in the park," he said to "Good Morning America." For the clients, exercise therapy seems to hit a lot of birds with one stone: fitness, healing, and a little fun. For more information social worker Clay Cockrell, visit www. walkandtalk.com
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By Farnoosh Torabi July 2, 2007
Clay Cockrell rings up a new pair of sneakers each month. His job demands it.
As the sole psychoanalyst running Walk and Talk, the 37-year- old conducts therapy sessions on the go in Central Park, Battery Park and throughout Manhattan. "We generally walk in isolated areas. It's not like people are listening in on our conversations," said Cockrell, who calls his alternative method "outdoor psychotherapy." Although if the trees could talk, it would probably be a different story, he admitted.
The concept for Walk and Talk began three years ago after treating patients in his midtown office. "It was actually my wife's idea," said Cockrell.
Since then, his client list has more than doubled from 15 to 40 a week. "We'll walk to their place of business or I'll meet them at their apartment… The convenience was a big selling point," he said, adding that appointments are sometimes scheduled in his old midtown office if the discussion is too serious.
Sessions run $100 to $150 for 50 minutes, depending on the time of day. Lunch time and the evening hours after work are, expectedly, the highest in demand and are the most expensive.
Clients range from Wall Streeters to those in film, theater and advertising. Most are referred by friends. Others find Cockrell on
his Web site WalkandTalk.com.
"I do really well with freelancers. They have that mentality of thinking outside the box," said Cockrell, a licensed social worker.
Going forward, he'd like to see his business expand and be able to employ one more therapist who'd share his philosophy.
Beyond the convenience factor, the benefits of the business, Cockrell said, are two-fold. First, the outdoor therapy sessions allow for more interaction that can support one's personal growth. "You can talk about how the weather affects your emotion. A lot
of my clients don't get to be outside a lot."
Take 30-something-year-old Diana Jones (who wished to have her name changed for this article). After a year visiting traditional therapists (couches and all), she now spends her lunch hour every other week with Cockrell in Central Park.
In the past three months, she said Cockrell has helped her better cope with her anxiety issues related to running her own business and starting a family with her husband. "Distractions within the park are actually nice," she said. "Being [there] we see 40 billion kids … it almost helps [to think it through]."
Then, there's the physical growth, said Cockrell, since being active is ultimately a healthy thing for the body. Personally speaking,
Cockrell's blood pressure's gone down and he's shed about 15 pounds since starting the business. He said being outdoors also
forces him to be more on his toes.
"This is harder, I found [for me]," he said. "You really got to be on your game. It's a dynamic active session. I'm exhausted by the by the end of the day."
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